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18 P106-100 & 1 P104-100 Mining Rig Build

18 P106-100 & 1 P104-100 Mining Rig Build

19 GPU Build with ASUS B250 Mining Expert - 470MH/s

Its my dream to achieve and build a mining rig of this extent.
Allow me to describe this journey of mine to the GPU mining community.
Kudos to all! Feel free to ask me questions and I would love to help you out.

2017 - Bull Market - Dipped my toes into the GPU mining market. Spent nearly 3k USD, 6x GTX 1060 3GB & 2x GTX 1070ti.

Back then, my setup was really simple, An ASUS B250 Mining Expert with Pentium G4400, 8GB of RAM, 2 PSU (Coolermaster 700w as well as a V1200W PSU)
Placed this entire setup on a DIY metal shelf
Bought extra 2 GTX 1060 3GB on my Ryzen 7 1700 setup back then. Mining Monero too on Cryptonight Algo. Really profitable on these 2 rigs combined. Earning approximately 35USD per day at the peak :)
Without much experience back then, my overclocking skills sucks. I was drawing a ton of power with very little efficiency. However, at that point I was literally making few hundreds every month. It has been a really wonderful journey until bear market hits.

2018 - Nicehash Hacked, Bitconnect & Bear Market Hits...

If you still remember the dreadful hack of Nicehash. One morning I woke up seeing that my rig was no longer mining. Saw my balance turned to zero. And the moment I saw this article, my heart sanked. With over 100 USD inside my account that point, I knew I wouldnt be able to pay for my electric that month. This pulled down my confidence but quite a little.
Still remember Bitconnect? Hahahaha well entered into this ponzi scheme too. Invested 100 USD into this, got it back and donated the money.
Disconnected my entire rig... It was a pretty sad moment :\")
My house became cooler, quieter and my power usage instantly went down.
Kept 1 GTX 1070ti & 1 GTX 1060 3GB and built myself a Ryzen 7 gaming computer hehe.

My disconnection from Crypto 2018-2019

I exited this market back at the very end of the bull run and never touched Bitcoin until 2019. I began to plan my future, created an investment portfolio where I finally included Bitcoin back into my high risk asset class. The resurgence of Bitcoin mining begans :)

2019 - Sold my Ryzen 7 1700 & MB for ASUS B250 Mining Expert with 19 GPU build in mind

It all started with my small mining rig of one ZOTAC GTX 1070ti as well as an ASUS B250 Mining Expert which I was using to mine Ethereum at 33MH/s, get paid 0.05eth approximately every 2 weeks on 2miners.com

Purchased 2 more GTX 1070ti, bringing my total hashrate to 130MH/s.
Revamped & Redesigned into a DIY rig. Didnt wanna spend the money to find a frame hehe decided to use my mums shoe rack instead HAHAHAH
Back then, 1 GTX 1070ti resale value was approximately 230 USD here in Singapore.
Calculated hash per dollar and I notice the insane price I was paying with my 1070tis.
Sold all 4 of my GTX 1070tis and manage to trade for the following cards:
  • x4 Gigayte RX 570 8GB cards @ 70USD
  • x1 Sapphire Nitro RX 570 8GB @ 85USD
  • x5 P106-100 6GB cards @ 63USD
4 Gigabyte RX 570, 1 Sapphire RX 570, 5 P106-100 6GB
With all the skills and experience I have accumulated in 2017, I began redesigning my entire 10 GPU setup. This was the end product of my 10 GPU mining rig consisting of 5 NVIDIA P106-100 6GB cards as wel as 5 AMD RX 570 8GB cards. Working fine alongside with one another as claimed by ASUS.
Hashrates:
  • NVIDIA P106-100 6GB: 24.8MH/s @ 85watts
  • AMD RX 570 8GB: 29MH/s @ 95watts

DEAL OF THE MONTH - ZOTAC P106-100 6GB @ 56 USD

The dream of building 19 cards were never off my brain. Been sourcing for cheaper 2nd hand cards and snap! 56 USD per card for ZOTAC P106-100. It was insanely a great deal. Sold my 5x RX 570 8GB, use the cash and baammm!
Got 8 ZOTAC P106-100 6GB (2 not in photo) for test. PERFECT CONDITION and I cant believe the speed I was getting in Ethereum. 450MH/S for 18x P106-100 6GB

2ND DEAL OF THE MONTH - P104-100 8GB @ 70 USD

Managed to achieve 35.9MH @ 124w. Bringing my total GPU to 19.

The screen all miners with B250s love to see :)
The entire setup of my 19 GPU rig. Fan is blowing at single direction, expelling all the hot air towards my door exit. Keeping my living room relatively cool.

Underclocked my rig to 466MH for better stability and power draw. Has been running fine for 2 weeks without any manual interventions.
Bought a HP 1200w PSU. Placed a 120mm fan on top of it to keep it cool. In case if you are asking how loud is it, actually its pretty quiet. I have only used 600w, half of the capacity. Hence, under full load I am not sure how loud it will be.

All in all, my journey of a 19 GPU build. Feel free to ask me any questions :)
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My own (x-post) If you like virtually building PCs, will you help me with mine again?

Tl;Dr: I have an i3, 8 gb of ram, and a GTX 960--help me build a new pc so i can appropriately game again?
A few years back, I got some help building my current rig--but I went TOO budget and need to upgrade.
That build (which I am currently posting from) is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/useG1ng3rBr3dd/saved/#view=bGybt6
Specs:
- Intel i3-6100 CPU
- GeForce GTX 960 GPU
- G-Skill Single Slot 8gb RAM
- Corsair CX 500 PSU
- Asus VX238H-W 23.0" 1920x1080 Monitor (I think I need a higher fps monitor from what I've been told)
- Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
- Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Gaming has been increasingly difficult and I want to actually enjoy gaming again without falling victim to being the lowest frame rate/highest latency on every server I enter.
I gamed on my buddy's pc the other day and I was floored. I'm unsure what his specs are, but it made me realize that mine is just holding me back.
I don't need a ProGaming+Streaming+Bitcoin Farming BEAST of a PC. I just want to enjoy gaming again and be able to for a few years with minimal upgrades.
I really like PCpartpicker.com as I'm ignorant and it's highly user-friendly so if you are bored and like doing this stuff, I'd really appreciate the help picking the best parts for what I'm looking for at a price I can justify to myself.
My top-tier budget is around $1200 but that may be insanely high or insanely low for what I'm asking; I'm not really sure. If I can keep and use some of the parts I already have (Tower case, motherboard [maybe], PSU[?]) That'd be awesome but I understand If I can't.
Thank you for reading and thank you in advance if you decide to venture into this for me. I appreciate y'all.
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Y'all helped me last time, and I'm now looking to upgrade. Help me build a new rig?

Tl;Dr: I have an i3, 8 gb of ram, and a GTX 960--help me build a new pc so i can appropriately game again?

A few years back, I got some help building my current rig--but I went TOO budget and need to upgrade.
That build (which I am currently posting from) is here: https://pcpartpicker.com/useG1ng3rBr3dd/saved/#view=bGybt6
Specs:
- Intel i3-6100 CPU
- GeForce GTX 960 GPU
- G-Skill Single Slot 8gb RAM
- Corsair CX 500 PSU
- Asus VX238H-W 23.0" 1920x1080 Monitor (I think I need a higher fps monitor from what I've been told)
- Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
- Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Gaming has been increasingly difficult and I want to actually enjoy gaming again without falling victim to being the lowest frame rate/highest latency on every server I enter.
I gamed on my buddy's pc the other day and I was floored. I'm unsure what his specs are, but it made me realize that mine is just holding me back.
I don't need a ProGaming+Streaming+Bitcoin Farming BEAST of a PC. I just want to enjoy gaming again and be able to for a few years with minimal upgrades.
I really like PCpartpicker.com as I'm ignorant and it's highly user-friendly so if you are bored and like doing this stuff, I'd really appreciate the help picking the best parts for what I'm looking for at a price I can justify to myself.
My top-tier budget is around $1200 but that may be insanely high or insanely low for what I'm asking; I'm not really sure. If I can keep and use some of the parts I already have (Tower case, motherboard [maybe], PSU[?]) That'd be awesome but I understand If I can't.
Thank you for reading and thank you in advance if you decide to venture into this for me. I appreciate y'all.
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How I turned $3500 into $15000 mining Cryptocurreny during the 2017 boom at 17 years old

First let's start at my first interaction with Bitcoin. Back in 2016, I was trading Minecraft accounts, you could find my story about that in one of my previous post. Long story short, a buyer had offered to buy one of my accounts for a fair amount of Bitcoin. I declined not knowing what that is and not caring.
Fast forward a little over a year, May 2017, I find out that you could actually mine cryptocurrency and profit from it. I talk to my techy uncle about it, he looks into it, decides to build a rig. This was easy for him since he had built computers before. Meanwhile summer, I am currently in New Zealand enjoying a vacation. When I come back, I look for ways to get this thing started. My uncle lives hundreds of miles away from me but luckily my mother knows someone who had mined crypto for a while. His name was CryptoNinja.
Crypto Ninja was a cool guy, he was a security analyst for a contracting firm. Knew lots about computers and programming. This was easy for him to grasp. When I met him, he had 2 rigs, one consisting of 6 1080ti's and the other with 4 1070's. If you don't know what these are, a 1080ti is or was the top of the line mining graphics card that you could get. Best of the best. Each costed about $550 at the time. 1070's market value were around $300-400 which at the time made mining extremely and easily profitable. This guy taught me how to do everything and when I say everything I mean it all. We started off with ordering the parts, He told me which parts were good for what and bad for this. We ordered from all over the place, Amazon, Newegg, and Microcenter. I gathered a list of parts, SSD, HD, GPU, CPU, MOTHERBOARD, RAM, ETC. All totaling out to about 3.5k. I had 6 1080's that I bought for around 500 each. This was the first time I've built a computer. I was a complete noob. He guided me through the process of starting with software, finding a mining pool, starting up your operating system, and taught me how to manage and maintain the mining program, hardware, and external factors. The whole process of ordering/shipping was about a week, building the computer took about 3 days, setting up programs took about a day. After that, boom. I'm running the mining program with a pool on Zcash. A pool is pretty much a group of miners collectively putting their computing force to get more results.
Meanwhile, I'm a senior in High School, bringing my macbook to school everyday to check up on the rig through Remote Desktop after every class. All of this was occuring around Sept. 2017 where BTC was going up up. And I'm talking around 10k. Boy was I racking in a ton of Zcash. Everytime after I'd rack in a good amount, I'd transfer my Zcash directly into my Bittrex account which then I traded for bitcoin and altcoins like OMG, OmiseGO, NEM, ETC. But there was this one time when I got on Bittrex at school and I saw Zcash had mysteriously went up to $400 in 10-15 minutes, the timing had never been better. Guess what I did? Sell all my Zcash yep. Made a good amount of money off of that. Every coin was going up. I continuously made successful trades because prices were going up. I felt like the man. By the time December came around, I had 10k worth of crypto in my exchange account. I know, dumb to keep it in the exchange account but hey I did it. I was the only one mining crypto at my school and people knew me for that but they didn't know how much I made, I joined the investment club. They talked about investing in crypto, what is it? is it safe? they wanted me to speak, i didn't out of fear. They all thought it was a fad. These were traditional stock trader type kids.
It was hard for them to understand the concept but by the time they wanted in it was too late. I already cashed out $12.2k. Bitcoin was like 18k at the time and I needed somewhere else to put my money. I decided to buy a whole new gaming setup. Which costed me around 2.5k and a new desk and cool random stuff for my room which costed a few hundred. I spent a lil more money than I wanted to but it was okay. then it came time to sell my mining rig, Bitcoin was falling. People were freaking out. I was out already. The prices of GPU's multiplied by 2. This was insane. I sold my gpu's on ebay for 3k and gave the rest of parts to either friends and kept RAM for myself. At the time, I was still 17. People would look at my computer and say what is that? Oh Bitcoin? That's Stupid. Welp. Not anymore words.
What am I doing now? Well I invested in some Quantum Computer Stocks, put some back into Crypto, and put some money into OG accounts which I have a whole story on on a previous reddit post. I learned a lot from this and look back smiling.
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Another update on my solar powered farm and bitcoin mining in the desert

Tl;Dr - Just skip to the bottom where I lay out my solabattery requirements for mining and my solabattery requirements for vertical farming. Oh...and costs and earnings.
Well, Summer is here and we have had some extremely hot weeks. This has given us a chance to test our greenhouses at temperatures of 126F/52C. We are still up and running quite well. Our energy requirements have gone up quite a bit. But the electricity we are consuming is right in line with our estimates. We do not feel that the temperatures will be any higher than the numbers we have seen so far. Unless Global Warming is for real...because now that I think about it, we did blow through our all-time-high in temperatures...and this was the last day of Spring, if I recall.
We are ordering all of our equipment directly from China. Our 40' greenhouses are extremely cheap to build in China. We are building them for about 40% of what companies like Freight Farms and Bright-Agro-Tech are selling their systems for. Our system is at least 90% as good as their systems. But we do have many bugs, it seems when we first receive them from China. Perhaps my main complaint. They can be a bit finicky. I would not want to sell these as the customer service would consume me.
Our most simple greenhouse uses between 250 and 450 kwh per day. I am in San Diego. Our residential rates from SDG&E are $0.43 per kwh. That is crazy high, for the record. This would cost between about $105 and $190 per DAY. Between about $3,000 and $5,500 per month. Most people in the US pay about $0.11 per kwh. This would equate to a monthly bill of $750 and $1350 per month. The Arizona desert pays that rate, for example.
Next, these greenhouses grow about 4,000 heads of lettuce per month. Wholesale price for this lettuce is $1. We sell direct to the end user. We charge $1.50. But at wholesale prices, this generates $4,000 per month in revenue. Labor is 10 hours per greenhouse. We pay $20 per hour. When you add all the California bullshit taxes and fees for employees this puts us at about $30 per hour. We also have insurance and Workers Comp. This is about $40 per month for each greenhouse.
Ok, now for the solar and battery requirements. We use 150 panels of 300 watt panels. I know...this is a lot. It takes a lot of space. You need a lot of cheap land. We spend about $0.45 per watt for solar panels from China. Our lettuce greenhouses run for 8 hours per day with lights. The other 16 hours we go "dark" and do not use much energy (just pumps, air conditioning and a few devices). We run the lights and everything during the peak sun hours. This allows us to not purchase as many batteries because we are turning the sun directly into the farming and lighting. Then, when the sun starts to wane, we turn most systems off and just remain in a well-insulated state. The battery requirements are still large, however. We currently use 50 lead acid batteries for each greenhouse. Each battery is 24V and 200 amp hours. Each battery costs us $180 from China.
Ok, how does this all tie into bitcoin and bitcoin mining? Here's the answer. Each Antminer S9 uses about 1400 watts when it is placed in the environment of our lettuce greenhouse. We place between one and four miners in each greenhouse. We need about 6,000 watts in solar panels to charge up the batteries and simultaneously run one S9 for 24 hours straight. We need 15 of the 24V/200 amp hour batteries for each miner. Cost for panels is $3,000. Batteries are $2750. The miner, when you buy from Bitmain is $1225 delivered to your door in the US. I have over-clocked the miners as high as I am comfy with. I am generating 0.007 btc per miner per day right now. That is about $18 per day at today's rate.
So here is how it all breaks down for the vertical farm: cost for one lettuce farm that is 100% off grid is about $90k. This includes EVERYTHING... solar, batteries, control systems, installation and framing for the solar, greenhouse, all equipment, air conditioners a water cooler...everything. Monthly labor, insurance, nutrients and supplies is $1500. Shipping of the lettuce is about $400. Total net profit is about $2100 per month. And $25,000 per year.
Mining...ok...this is the wobbly one to predict. Just remember this and it'll make it all easier to accept these numbers: bitcoin is probably headed to $10,000 within 3 years. If you don't believe that then much of this will just be comical to you (if it isn't already). One miner will cost (miner + solar panels + batteries + power control systems + cooling equipment and the solabatteries to support it) = $8000. The solar and battery system costs a total of $6800. The miner is $1200. Once you have purchased the solar and batteries, you own them forever. They can be used to mine for 25 years for solar and at least 6 years with the lead acid batteries. You can amortize these costs. If bitcoin drops to $0 then you can instantly switch your solar and batteries to your farm. This is how I backstop my potential losses.
Now, here is the magical way we have figured out how to avoid the "decay" that is built into the miners: we run them for 4 to 8 weeks then we sell them on the open market at a premium over cost. When you purchase large numbers from Bitmain, they will offer you a discounted price. The miners seem to always go up in value in between releases fom Bitmain. After 6 to 9 months of reselling at this pace, you will make all of your initial investment back in the miners. You will also stay current with the miners. So, one miner will generate about 2 btc per year (when you stay ahead of decay). That is $5,000 per year at today's rate. If bitcoin follows the trend (and you believe) then I expect that you will generate $6500 or more within one year from mining today. This means the system will completely pay for itself (including solar and batteries) in about one year. Oh...and then after a year, you own a brand new miner (cuz you have been constantly reselling them to stay current and slightly profit). Oh...and you how have 6kw of solar AND batteries...just keep mining til bitcoin is outlawed. You are now in a unique position...your mining rig costs you $0 from this point forward.
I have calculated the amount of profit you can make if you build your own solabattery array and point this array to different businesses. One business is a modern, vertical farm which is good for the environment and makes healthier food. The other is a bitcoin mining operation. Both businesses have energy as their single largest cost of doing business. I like the idea of having two businesses that I can just point an energy source towards and they start making money. Isn't that kinda cool to think about? Farming generates a net profit of $0.22 per kwh from a solabattery system. Bitcoin mining generates $0.51 per kwh for the exact same system. Think about that for a minute.
Also, what the fuck? If bitcoin actually does take off, imagine how it will pollute the world with miners in places with shitty but cheap fossil fuel. Shouldn't we be mining on renewable energy since...let's be honest, bitcoin shouldn't really exist? It only exists because people lie a bunch. It seems like protecting ourselves from our despicable selves shouldn't turn the world into a toilet that may become uninhabitable.
I just wanted to share everything with this community. If it weren't for this community, I would have been nervous about trying this crazy idea. What I mean by this is that I appreciate the handful of people here who have a lot of bitcoin and just handed them over to me so that I could test this TOTALLY insane and HIGHLY SPECULATIVE business model. I told you (those who lost their btc to me) that I will make it up to you. For the couple of you who didn't threaten to kill me, I will return your btc when my profits from mining hit 4,000 btc, unless the price is under $3100 per btc...seems fair...you did lose...and it was a fair bet.
I hope for several things from this post. (1) The nice people who are here hopefully will take this info and appreciate what went into getting these numbers. (2) Someone will read this, run the numbers themselves and decide to do the exact same thing. (3) Someone in an area with good sun, year round, will set up a mining operation based on my model. (4) Someone will bet me publicly again that I am lying. (5) Someone interesting will buy the land next to mine and compete head-to-head with me...I seem to perform better under competition.
To;Dr - To take a miner off grid, in a sunny place, will cost $8,000 (including the miner). You'll break even in a year if you follow my plan (and if fate complies as well). One 40' greenhouse that is off grid costs me $90k. Least amount of net profit per greenhouse is $25,000 per year. Average net profit is $36,000per year, typically from blending lettuce and other crops such as basil.
Farming generates a net profit of $0.22 per kwh from a solabattery system. Bitcoin mining generates $0.51 per kwh for the exact same system. Think about that for a minute. We sell energy back to the grid for about $0.05. Does anyone look at this the way I am looking at it?...I am just curious.
Anybody have any questions?
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Console gaming is hardly different from PC gaming, and much of what people say about PC gaming to put it above console gaming is often wrong.

I’m not sure about you, but for the past few years, I’ve been hearing people go on and on about PCs "superiority" to the console market. People cite various reasons why they believe gaming on a PC is “objectively” better than console gaming, often for reasons related to power, costs, ease-of-use, and freedom.
…Only problem: much of what they say is wrong.
There are many misconceptions being thrown about PC gaming vs Console gaming, that I believe need to be addressed. This isn’t about “PC gamers being wrong,” or “consoles being the best,” absolutely not. I just want to cut through some of the stuff people use to put down console gaming, and show that console gaming is incredibly similar to PC gaming. I mean, yes, this is someone who mainly games on console, but I also am getting a new PC that I will game on as well, not to mention the 30 PC games I already own and play. I’m not particularly partial to one over the other.
Now I will mainly be focusing on the PlayStation side of the consoles, because I know it best, but much of what I say will apply to Xbox as well. Just because I don’t point out many specific Xbox examples, doesn’t mean that they aren’t out there.

“PCs can use TVs and monitors.”

This one isn’t so much of a misconception as it is the implication of one, and overall just… confusing. This is in some articles and the pcmasterrace “why choose a PC” section, where they’re practically implying that consoles can’t do this. I mean, yes, as long as the ports of your PC match up with your screen(s) inputs, you could plug a PC into either… but you could do the same with a console, again, as long as the ports match up.
I’m guessing the idea here is that gaming monitors often use Displayport, as do most dedicated GPUs, and consoles are generally restricted to HDMI… But even so, monitors often have HDMI ports. In fact, PC Magazine has just released their list of the best gaming monitors of 2017, and every single one of them has an HDMI port. A PS4 can be plugged into these just as easily as a GTX 1080.
I mean, even if the monitoTV doesn’t have HDMI or AV to connect with your console, just use an adaptor. If you have a PC with ports that doesn’t match your monitoTV… use an adapter. I don’t know what the point of this argument is, but it’s made a worrying amount of times.

“On PC, you have a wide range of controller options, but on console you’re stuck with the standard controller."

Are you on PlayStation and wish you could use a specific type of controller that suits your favorite kind of gameplay? Despite what some may believe, you have just as many options as PC.
Want to play fighting games with a classic arcade-style board, featuring the buttons and joystick? Here you go!
Want to get serious about racing and get something more accurate and immersive than a controller? Got you covered.
Absolutely crazy about flying games and, like the racers, want something better than a controller? Enjoy!
Want Wii-style motion controls? Been around since the PS3. If you prefer the form factor of the Xbox One controller but you own a PS4, Hori’s got you covered. And of course, if keyboard and mouse it what keeps you on PC, there’s a PlayStation compatible solution for that. Want to use the keyboard and mouse that you already own? Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Of course, these aren’t isolated examples, there are plenty of options for each of these kind of controllers. You don’t have to be on PC to enjoy alternate controllers.

“On PC you could use Steam Link to play anywhere in your house and share games with others.”

PS4 Remote play app on PC/Mac, PSTV, and PS Vita.
PS Family Sharing.
Using the same PSN account on multiple PS4s/Xbox Ones and PS3s/360s, or using multiple accounts on the same console.
In fact, if multiple users are on the same PS4, only one has to buy the game for both users to play it on that one PS4. On top of that, only one of them has to have PS Plus for both to play online (if the one with PS Plus registers the PS4 as their main system).
PS4 Share Play; if two people on separate PS4s want to play a game together that only one of them owns, they can join a Party and the owner of the game can have their friend play with them in the game.
Need I say more?

“Gaming is more expensive on console.”

Part one, the Software
This is one that I find… genuinely surprising. There’s been a few times I’ve mentioned that part of the reason I chose a PS4 is for budget gaming, only to told that “games are cheaper on Steam.” To be fair, there are a few games on PSN/XBL that are more expensive than they are on Steam, so I can see how someone could believe this… but apparently they forgot about disks.
Dirt Rally, a hardcore racing sim game that’s… still $60 on all 3 platforms digitally… even though its successor is out.
So does this mean you have to pay full retail for this racing experience? Nope, because disk prices.
Just Cause 3, an insane open-world experience that could essentially be summed up as “break stuff, screw physics.” And it’s a good example of where the Steam price is lower than PSN and XBL:
Not by much, but still cheaper on Steam, so cheaper on PC… Until you look at the disk prices.
See my point? Often times the game is cheaper on console because of the disk alternative that’s available for practically every console-available game. Even when the game is brand new.
Dirt 4 - Remember that Dirt Rally successor I mentioned?
Yes, you could either buy this relatively new game digitally for $60, or just pick up the disk for a discounted price. And again, this is for a game that came out 2 months ago, and even it’s predecessor’s digital cost is locked at $60. Of course, I’m not going to ignore the fact that Dirt 4 is currently (as of writing this) discounted on Steam, but on PSN it also happens to be discounted for about the same amount.
Part 2: the Subscription
Now… let’s not ignore the elephant in the room: PS Plus and Xbox Gold. Now these would be ignorable, if they weren’t required for online play (on the PlayStation side, it’s only required for PS4, but still). So yes, it’s still something that will be included in the cost of your PS4 or Xbox One/360, assuming you play online. Bummer, right?
Here’s the thing, although that’s the case, although you have to factor in this $60 cost with your console, you can make it balance out, at worst, and make it work out for you as a budget gamer, at best. As nice as it would be to not have to deal with the price if you don’t want to, it’s not like it’s a problem if you use it correctly.
Imagine going to a new restaurant. This restaurant has some meals that you can’t get anywhere else, and fair prices compared to competitors. Only problem: you have to pay a membership fee to have the sides. Now you can have the main course, sit down and enjoy your steak or pasta, but if you want to have a side to have a full meal, you have to pay an annual fee.
Sounds shitty, right? But here’s the thing: not only does this membership allow you to have sides with your meal, but it also allows you to eat two meals for free every month, and also gives you exclusive discounts for other meals, drinks, and desserts.
Let’s look at PS Plus for a minute: for $60 per year, you get:
  • 2 free PS4 games, every month
  • 2 free PS3 games, every month
  • 1 PS4/PS3 and Vita compatible game, and 1 Vita-only game, every month
  • Exclusive/Extended discounts, especially during the weekly/seasonal sales (though you don’t need PS Plus to get sales, PS Plus members get to enjoy the best sales)
  • access to online multiplayer
So yes, you’re paying extra because of that membership, but what you get with that deal pays for it and then some. In fact, let’s ignore the discounts for a minute: you get 24 free PS4 games, 24 free PS3 games, and 12 Vita only + 12 Vita compatible games, up to 72 free games every year. Even if you only one of these consoles, that’s still 24 free games a year. Sure, maybe you get games for the month that you don’t like, then just wait until next month.
In fact, let’s look at Just Cause 3 again. It was free for PS Plus members in August, which is a pretty big deal. Why is this significant? Because it’s, again, a $60 digital game. That means with this one download, you’ve balanced out your $60 annual fee. Meaning? Every free game after that is money saved, every discount after that is money saved. And this is a trend: every year, PS Plus will release a game that balances out the entire service cost, then another 23 more that will only add icing to that budget cake. Though, you could just count games as paying off PS Plus until you hit $60 in savings, but still.
All in all, PS Plus, and Xbox Gold which offers similar options, saves you money. On top of that, again, you don't need to have these to get discounts, but with these memberships, you get more discounts.
Now, I’ve seen a few Steam games go up for free for a week, but what about being free for an entire month? Not to mention that; even if you want to talk about Steam Summer Sales, what about the PSN summer sale, or again, disc sale discounts? Now a lot of research and math would be needed to see if every console gamer would save money compared to every Steam gamer for the same games, but at the very least? The costs will balance out, at worst.
Part 3, the Systems
  • Xbox and PS2: $299
  • Xbox 360 and PS3: $299 and $499, respectively
  • Xbox One and PS4: $499 and $399, respectively.
Rounded up a few dollars, that’s $1,000 - $1,300 in day-one consoles, just to keep up with the games! Crazy right? So called budget systems, such a rip-off.
Well, keep in mind that the generations here aren’t short.
The 6th generation, from the launch of the PS2 to the launch of the next generation consoles, lasted 5 years, 6 years based on the launch of the PS3 (though you could say it was 9 or 14, since the Xbox wasn’t discontinued until 2009, and the PS2 was supported all the way to 2014, a year after the PS4 was released). The 7th gen lasted 7 - 8 years, again depending on whether you count the launch of the Xbox 360 to PS3. The 8th gen so far has lasted 4 years. That’s 17 years that the console money is spread over. If you had a Netflix subscription for it’s original $8 monthly plan for that amount of time, that would be over $1,600 total.
And let’s be fair here, just like you could upgrade your PC hardware whenever you wanted, you didn’t have to get a console from launch. Let’s look at PlayStation again for example: In 2002, only two years after its release, the PS2 retail price was cut from $300 to $200. The PS3 Slim, released 3 years after the original, was $300, $100-$200 lower than the retail cost. The PS4? You could’ve either gotten the Uncharted bundle for $350, or one of the PS4 Slim bundles for $250. This all brings it down to $750 - $850, which again, is spread over a decade and a half. This isn’t even counting used consoles, sales, or the further price cuts that I didn’t mention.
Even if that still sounds like a lot of money to you, even if you’re laughing at the thought of buying new systems every several years, because your PC “is never obsolete,” tell me: how many parts have you changed out in your PC over the years? How many GPUs have you been through? CPUs? Motherboards? RAM sticks, monitors, keyboards, mice, CPU coolers, hard drives— that adds up. You don’t need to replace your entire system to spend a lot of money on hardware.
Even if you weren’t upgrading for the sake of upgrading, I’d be amazed if the hardware you’ve been pushing by gaming would last for about 1/3 of that 17 year period. Computer parts aren’t designed to last forever, and really won’t when you’re pushing them with intensive gaming for hours upon hours. Generally speaking, your components might last you 6-8 years, if you’ve got the high-end stuff. But let’s assume you bought a system 17 years ago that was a beast for it’s time, something so powerful, that even if it’s parts have degraded over time, it’s still going strong. Problem is: you will have to upgrade something eventually.
Even if you’ve managed to get this far into the gaming realm with the same 17 year old hardware, I’m betting you didn’t do it with a 17 year Operating System. How much did Windows 7 cost you? Or 8.1? Or 10? Oh, and don’t think you can skirt the cost by getting a pre-built system, the cost of Windows is embedded into the cost of the machine (why else would Microsoft allow their OS to go on so many machines).
Sure, Windows 10 was a free upgrade for a year, but that’s only half of it’s lifetime— You can’t get it for free now, and not for the past year. On top of that, the free period was an upgrade; you had to pay for 7 or 8 first anyway.
Point is, as much as one would like to say that they didn’t need to buy a new system every so often for the sake of gaming, that doesn’t mean they haven’t been paying for hardware, and even if they’ve only been PC gaming recently, you’ll be spending money on hardware soon enough.

“PC is leading the VR—“

Let me stop you right there.
If you add together the total number of Oculus Rifts and HTC Vives sold to this day, and threw in another 100,000 just for the sake of it, that number would still be under the number of PSVR headsets sold.
Why could this possibly be? Well, for a simple reason: affordability. The systems needed to run the PC headsets costs $800+, and the headsets are $500 - $600, when discounted. PSVR on the other hand costs $450 for the full bundle (headset, camera, and move controllers, with a demo disc thrown in), and can be played on either a $250 - $300 console, or a $400 console, the latter recommended. Even if you want to say that the Vive and Rift are more refined, a full PSVR set, system and all, could cost just over $100 more than a Vive headset alone.
If anything, PC isn’t leading the VR gaming market, the PS4 is. It’s the system bringing VR to the most consumers, showing them what the future of gaming could look like. Not to mention that as the PlayStation line grows more powerful (4.2 TFLOP PS4 Pro, 10 TFLOP “PS5…”), it won’t be long until the PlayStation line can use the same VR games as PC.
Either way, this shows that there is a console equivalent to the PC VR options. Sure, there are some games you'd only be able to play on PC, but there are also some games you'd only be able to play on PSVR.
…Though to be fair, if we’re talking about VR in general, these headsets don’t even hold a candle to, surprisingly, Gear VR.

“If it wasn’t for consoles holding devs back, then they would be able to make higher quality games.”

This one is based on the idea that because of how “low spec” consoles are, that when a developer has to take them in mind, then they can’t design the game to be nearly as good as it would be otherwise. I mean, have you ever seen the minimum specs for games on Steam?
GTA V
  • CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs) / AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs) @ 2.5GHz
  • Memory: 4 GB RAM
  • GPU: NVIDIA 9800 GT 1GB / AMD HD 4870 1GB (DX 10, 10.1, 11)
Just Cause 3
  • CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k, 3.3GHz / AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 3GHz
  • Memory: 8 GB RAM
  • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2GB) / AMD Radeon HD 7870 (2GB)
Fallout 4
  • CPU: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
  • Memory: 8 GB RAM
  • GPU: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Overwatch
  • CPU: Intel Core i3 or AMD Phenom™ X3 8650
  • Memory: 4 GB RAM
  • GPU: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460, ATI Radeon™ HD 4850, or Intel® HD Graphics 4400
Witcher 3
  • Processor: Intel CPU Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz / AMD CPU Phenom II X4 940
  • Memory: 6 GB RAM
  • Graphics: Nvidia GPU GeForce GTX 660 / AMD GPU Radeon HD 7870
Actually, bump up all the memory requirements to 8 GBs, and those are some decent specs, relatively speaking. And keep in mind these are the minimum specs to even open the games. It’s almost as if the devs didn’t worry about console specs when making a PC version of the game, because this version of the game isn’t on console. Or maybe even that the consoles aren’t holding the games back that much because they’re not that weak. Just a hypothesis.
But I mean, the devs are still ooobviously having to take weak consoles into mind right? They could make their games sooo much more powerful if they were PC only, right? Right?
No. Not even close.
iRacing
  • CPU: Intel Core i3, i5, i7 or better or AMD Bulldozer or better
  • Memory: 8 GB RAM
  • GPU: NVidia GeForce 2xx series or better, 1GB+ dedicated video memory / AMD 5xxx series or better, 1GB+ dedicated video memory
Playerunknown’s Battlegrounds
  • CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 / AMD FX-6300
  • Memory: 6 GB RAM
  • GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 660 2GB / AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB
These are PC only games. That’s right, no consoles to hold them back, they don’t have to worry about whether an Xbox One could handle it. Yet, they don’t require anything more than the Multiplatform games.
Subnautica
  • CPU: Intel Haswell 2 cores / 4 threads @ 2.5Ghz or equivalent
  • Memory: 4GB
  • GPU: Intel HD 4600 or equivalent - This includes most GPUs scoring greater than 950pts in the 3DMark Fire Strike benchmark
Rust
  • CPU: 2 ghz
  • Memory: 8 GB RAM
  • DirectX: Version 11 (they don’t even list a GPU)
So what’s the deal? Theoretically, if developers don’t have to worry about console specs, then why aren’t they going all-out and making games that no console could even dream of supporting?
Low-end PCs.
What, did you think people only game on Steam if they spent at least $500 on gaming hardware? Not all PC gamers have gaming-PC specs, and if devs close their games out to players who don’t have the strongest of PCs, then they’d be losing out on a pretty sizable chunk of their potential buyers.
Saying “devs having to deal with consoles is holding gaming back” is like saying “racing teams having to deal with Ford is holding GT racing back.” A: racing teams don’t have to deal with Ford if they don’t want to, which is probably why many of them don’t, and B: even though Ford doesn’t make the fastest cars overall, they still manage to make cars that are awesome on their own, they don’t even need to be compared to anything else to know that they make good cars.
I want to go back to that previous point though, developers having to deal with low-end PCs, because it’s integral to the next point:

“PCs are more powerful, gaming on PC provides a better experience.”

This one isn’t so much of a misconception as it is… misleading.
Did you know that according to the Steam Hardware & Software Survey (July 2017) , the percentage of Steam gamers who use a GPU that's less powerful than that of a PS4 Slim’s GPU is well over 50%? Things get dismal when compared to the PS4 Pro (Or Xbox One X). On top of that, the percentage of PC gamers who own a Nvidia 10 series card is about 20% (about 15% for the 1060, 1080 and 1070 owners).
Now to be fair, the large majority of gamers have CPUs with considerably high clock speeds, which is the main factor in CPU gaming performance. But, the number of Steam gamers with as much RAM or more than a PS4 or Xbox One is less than 50%, which can really bottleneck what those CPUs can handle.
These numbers are hardly better than they were in 2013, all things considered. Sure, a PS3/360 weeps in the face of even a $400 PC, but in this day in age, consoles have definitely caught up.
Sure, we could mention the fact that even 1% of Steam accounts represents over 1 million accounts, but that doesn’t really matter compared to the 10s of millions of 8th gen consoles sold; looking at it that way, sure the number of Nvidia 10 series owners is over 20 million, but that ignores the fact that there are over 5 times more 8th gen consoles sold than that.
Basically, even though PCs run on a spectrum, saying they're more powerful “on average” is actually wrong. Sure, they have the potential for being more powerful, but most of the time, people aren’t willing to pay the premium to reach those extra bits of performance.
Now why is this important? What matters are the people who spent the premium cost for premium parts, right? Because of the previous point: PCs don’t have some ubiquitous quality over the consoles, developers will always have to keep low-end PCs in mind, because not even half of all PC players can afford the good stuff, and you have to look at the top quarter of Steam players before you get to PS4-Pro-level specs. If every Steam player were to get a PS4 Pro, it would be an upgrade for over 60% of them, and 70% of them would be getting an upgrade with the Xbox One X.
Sure, you could still make the argument that when you pay more for PC parts, you get a better experience than you could with a console. We can argue all day about budget PCs, but a console can’t match up to a $1,000 PC build. It’s the same as paying more for car parts, in the end you get a better car. However, there is a certain problem with that…

“You pay a little more for a PC, you get much more quality.”

The idea here is that the more you pay for PC parts, the performance increases at a faster rate than the price does. Problem: that’s not how technology works. Paying twice as much doesn’t get you twice the quality the majority of the time.
For example, let’s look at graphics cards, specifically the GeForce 10 series cards, starting with the GTX 1050.
  • 1.8 TFLOP
  • 1.35 GHz base clock
  • 2 GB VRAM
  • $110
This is our reference, our basis of comparison. Any percentages will be based on the 1050’s specs.
Now let’s look at the GTX 1050 Ti, the 1050’s older brother.
  • 2.1 TFLOP
  • 1.29 GHz base clock
  • 4 GB VRAM
  • $140 retail
This is pretty good. You only increase the price by about 27%, and you get an 11% increase in floating point speed and a 100% increase (double) in VRAM. Sure you get a slightly lower base clock, but the rest definitely makes up for it. In fact, according to GPU boss, the Ti managed 66 fps, or a 22% increase in frame rate for Battlefield 4, and a 54% increase in mHash/second in bitcoin mining. The cost increase is worth it, for the most part.
But let’s get to the real meat of it; what happens when we double our budget? Surely we should see a massive increase performance, I bet some of you are willing to bet that twice the cost means more than twice the performance.
The closest price comparison for double the cost is the GTX 1060 (3 GB), so let’s get a look at that.
  • 3.0 TFLOP
  • 1.5 GHz base clock
  • 3 GB VRAM
  • $200 retail
Well… not substantial, I’d say. About a 50% increase in floating point speed, an 11% increase in base clock speed, and a 1GB decrease in VRAM. For [almost] doubling the price, you don’t get much.
Well surely raw specs don’t tell the full story, right? Well, let’s look at some real wold comparisons. Once again, according to GPU Boss, there’s a 138% increase in hashes/second for bitcoin mining, and at 99 fps, an 83% frame rate increase in Battlefield 4. Well, then, raw specs does not tell the whole story!
Here’s another one, the 1060’s big brother… or, well, slightly-more-developed twin.
  • 3.9 TFLOP
  • 1.5 GHz base clock
  • 6 GB VRAM
  • $250 retail
Seems reasonable, another $50 for a decent jump in power and double the memory! But, as we’ve learned, we shouldn’t look at the specs for the full story.
I did do a GPU Boss comparison, but for the BF4 frame rate, I had to look at Tom’s Hardware (sorry miners, GPU boss didn’t cover the mHash/sec spec either). What’s the verdict? Well, pretty good, I’d say. With 97 FPS, a 79% increase over the 1050— wait. 97? That seems too low… I mean, the 3GB version got 99.
Well, let’s see what Tech Power Up has to say...
94.3 fps. 74% increase. Huh.
Alright alright, maybe that was just a dud. We can gloss over that I guess. Ok, one more, but let’s go for the big fish: the GTX 1080.
  • 9.0 TFLOP
  • 1.6 GHz base clock
  • 8 GB VRAM
  • $500 retail
That jump in floating point speed definitely has to be something, and 4 times the VRAM? Sure it’s 5 times the price, but as we saw, raw power doesn’t always tell the full story. GPU Boss returns to give us the run down, how do these cards compare in the real world?
Well… a 222% (over three-fold) increase in mHash speed, and a 218% increase in FPS for Battlefield 4. That’s right, for 5 times the cost, you get 3 times the performance. Truly, the raw specs don’t tell the full story.
You increase the cost by 27%, you increase frame rate in our example game by 22%. You increase the cost by 83%, you increase the frame rate by 83%. Sounds good, but if you increase the cost by 129%, and you get a 79% (-50% cost/power increase) increase in frame rate. You increase it by 358%, and you increase the frame rate by 218% (-140% cost/power increase). That’s not paying “more for much more power,” that’s a steep drop-off after the third cheapest option.
In fact, did you know that you have to get to the 1060 (6GB) before you could compare the GTX line to a PS4 Pro? Not to mention that at $250, the price of a 1060 (6GB) you could get an entire PS4 Slim bundle, or that you have to get to the 1070 before you beat the Xbox One X.
On another note, let’s look at a PS4 Slim…
  • 1.84 TFLOP
  • 800 MHz base clock
  • 8 GB VRAM
  • $300 retail
…Versus a PS4 Pro.
  • 4.2 TFLOP
  • 911 MHz base clock
  • 8 GB VRAM
  • $400 retail
128% increase in floating point speed, 13% increase in clock speed, for a 25% difference in cost. Unfortunately there is no Battlefield 4 comparison to make, but in BF1, the frame rate is doubled (30 fps to 60) and the textures are taken to 11. For what that looks like, I’ll leave it up to this bloke. Not to even mention that you can even get the texture buffs in 4K. Just like how you get a decent increase in performance based on price for the lower-cost GPUs, the same applies here.
It’s even worse when you look at the CPU for a gaming PC. The more money you spend, again, the less of a benefit you get per dollar. Hardware Unboxed covers this in a video comparing different levels of Intel CPUs. One thing to note is that the highest i7 option (6700K) in this video was almost always within 10 FPS (though for a few games, 15 FPS) of a certain CPU in that list for just about all of the games.
…That CPU was the lowest i3 (6100) option. The lowest i3 was $117 and the highest i7 was $339, a 189% price difference for what was, on average, a 30% or less difference in frame rate. Even the lowest Pentium option (G4400, $63) was often able to keep up with the i7.
The CPU and GPU are usually the most expensive and power-consuming parts of a build, which is why I focused on them (other than the fact that they’re the two most important parts of a gaming PC, outside of RAM). With both, this “pay more to get much more performance” idea is pretty much the inverse of the truth.

“The console giants are bad for game developers, Steam doesn't treat developers as bad as Microsoft or especially Sony.”

Now one thing you might’ve heard is that the PS3 was incredibly difficult for developers to make games for, which for some, fueled the idea that console hardware is difficult too develop on compared to PC… but this ignores a very basic idea that we’ve already touched on: if the devs don’t want to make the game compatible with a system, they don’t have to. In fact, this is why Left 4 Dead and other Valve games aren’t on PS3, because they didn’t want to work with it’s hardware, calling it “too complex.” This didn’t stop the game from selling well over 10 million units worldwide. If anything, this was a problem for the PS3, not the dev team.
This also ignores that games like LittleBigPlanet, Grand Theft Auto IV, and Metal Gear Solid 4 all came out in the same year as Left 4 Dead (2008) on PS3. Apparently, plenty of other dev teams didn’t have much of a problem with the PS3’s hardware, or at the very least, they got used to it soon enough.
On top of that, when developing the 8th gen consoles, both Sony and Microsoft sought to use CPUs that were easier for developers, which included making decisions that considered apps for the consoles’ usage for more than gaming. On top of that, using their single-chip proprietary CPUs is cheaper and more energy efficient than buying pre-made CPUs and boards, which is far better of a reason for using them than some conspiracy about Sony and MS trying to make devs' lives harder.
Now, console exclusives are apparently a point of contention: it’s often said that exclusive can cause developers to go bankrupt. However, exclusivity doesn’t have to be a bad thing for the developer. For example, when Media Molecule had to pitch their game to a publisher (Sony, coincidentally), they didn’t end up being tied into something detrimental to them.
Their initial funding lasted for 6 months. From then, Sony offered additional funding, in exchange for Console Exclusivity. This may sound concerning to some, but the game ended up going on to sell almost 6 million units worldwide and launched Media Molecule into the gaming limelight. Sony later bought the development studio, but 1: this was in 2010, two years after LittleBigPlanet’s release, and 2: Media Molecule seem pretty happy about it to this day. If anything, signing up with Sony was one of the best things they could’ve done, in their opinion.
Does this sound like a company that has it out for developers? There are plenty of examples that people will use to put Valve in a good light, but even Sony is comparatively good to developers.

“There are more PC gamers.”

The total number of active PC gamers on Steam has surpassed 120 million, which is impressive, especially considering that this number is double that of 2013’s figure (65 million). But the number of monthly active users on Xbox Live and PSN? About 120 million (1, 2) total. EDIT: You could argue that this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison, sure, so if you want to, say, compare the monthly number of Steam users to console? Steam has about half of what consoles do, at 67 million.
Now, back to the 65 million total user figure for Steam, the best I could find for reference for PlayStation's number was an article giving the number of registered PSN accounts in 2013, 150 million. In a similar 4-year period (2009 - 2013), the number of registered PSN accounts didn’t double, it sextupled, or increased by 6 fold. Considering how the PS4 is already at 2/3 of the number of sales the PS3 had, even though it’s currently 3 years younger than its predecessor, I’m sure this trend is at least generally consistent.
For example, let’s look at DOOM 2016, an awesome faced-paced shooting title with graphics galore… Of course, on a single platform, it sold best on PC/Steam. 2.36 million Steam sales, 2.05 million PS4 sales, 1.01 million Xbox One sales.
But keep in mind… when you add the consoles sales together, you get over 3 million sales on the 8th gen systems. Meaning: this game was best sold on console. In fact, the Steam sales have only recently surpassed the PS4 sales. By the way VG charts only shows sales for physical copies of the games, so the number of PS4 and Xbox sales, when digital sales are included, are even higher than 3 million.
This isn’t uncommon, by the way.
Even with the games were the PC sales are higher than either of the consoles, there generally are more console sales total. But, to be fair, this isn’t anything new. The number of PC gamers hasn’t dominated the market, the percentages have always been about this much. PC can end up being the largest single platform for games, but consoles usually sell more copies total.
EDIT: There were other examples but... Reddit has a 40,000-character limit.

"Modding is only on PC."

Xbox One is already working on it, and Bethesda is helping with that.
PS4 isn't far behind either. You could argue that these are what would be the beta stages of modding, but that just means modding on consoles will only grow.

What’s the Point?

This isn’t to say that there’s anything wrong with PC gaming, and this isn’t to exalt consoles. I’m not here to be the hipster defending the little guy, nor to be the one to try to put down someone/thing out of spite. This is about showing that PCs and consoles are overall pretty similar because there isn’t much dividing them, and that there isn’t anything wrong with being a console gamer. There isn’t some chasm separating consoles and PCs, at the end of the day they’re both computers that are (generally) designed for gaming. This about unity as gamers, to try to show that there shouldn’t be a massive divide just because of the computer system you game on. I want gamers to be in an environment where specs don't separate us; whether you got a $250 PS4 Slim or just built a $2,500 gaming PC, we’re here to game and should be able to have healthy interactions regardless of your platform.
I’m well aware that this isn’t going to fix… much, but this needs to be said: there isn’t a huge divide between the PC and consoles, they’re far more similar than people think. There are upsides and downsides that one has that the other doesn’t on both sides. There’s so much more I could touch on, like how you could use SSDs or 3.5 inch hard drives with both, or that even though PC part prices go down over time, so do consoles, but I just wanted to touch on the main points people try to use to needlessly separate the two kinds of systems (looking at you PCMR) and correct them, to get the point across.
I thank anyone who takes the time to read all of this, and especially anyone who doesn’t take what I say out of context. I also want to note that, again, this isn’tanti-PC gamer.” If it were up to me, everyone would be a hybrid gamer.
Cheers.
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Australian Mining Tax Mini Guide

Hey guys, long time reader here first time poster. Was looking for some decent information online regarding Tax law for Aussies and crypto mining in general and came up pretty empty really. So I’ve made some calls to the ATO and tried to clear up some confusions for myself and thought it might be helpful to some of you here with tax time coming up soon.
For the specifics here I have an ABN registered as a Sole Trader and the implications may vary if you don’t have an ABN but it’s pretty easy to register if you think it’s suitable to you/your operation. I run a single rig currently from home so I’m not a big operator so please keep that in mind.
The rig components:
All parts of your build (GPU, PSU, CPU— all of it) are claimable as instant depreciating assets with the full cost of the items being able to be written off. Make sure you have all your receipts kept orderly, you claim the costs of the components as deductions in the business income portion of your tax return. I believe depending on operation size ($20,000 AUD in hardware costs this financial year) you will have to claim it over a few amount of years but I didn’t look too much into this.
Software Costs:
If you are running subscription based programs for your rig(s) these are claimable deductions if they were incurred as use of generating income. If the programs or software you are running costs you anything, it is generally acceptable.
Electricity Costs:
As I’m running my rig inside my house to work out your eligible deduction amount on your electricity costs you need to try estimate the percentage of the yearly bill can be attributed to your rig running. Plenty of tools available online to help calculate the usage on your rig or devices you can get to meter your setup, another nice little deduction.
Mining Earnings:
When it comes to your earnings, you will need to keep track of an AUD amount of each payout, as well as the date and time of the transaction. Me personally I’m primarily using Nicehash with a bit of XMR mining with a few CPUs with a low payout schedule (couple of times a year) so keeping an active record of my payouts shouldn’t be too insane. Keep records of all payouts as these will help a lot!
Coin to Coin Transactions:
The ATO has yet to reach an official ruling on Crypto-Crypto trades so this is very much on the fence at the moment. From what I’ve read an official decision should be made around the 20th of April to hopefully smooth things out. Here’s hoping we don’t get the US treatment.
Capital gains tax will apply to all crypto-fiat transactions but my interpretation is that when it comes tax time you pay taxes on your income at the time on earning—so the AUD fiat value of your payout at the time of receiving it.
Say you earn
0.01 BTC today @ $10,520 AUD
If on the 30th June that 0.01 BTC is now worth $17,000 AUD you will only be paying tax on the earnings as of the payout. This will of course change if you sell the Bitcoin on the 30th of June for $17k you will pay CGT on the difference between the earned amounts price and the sale price.
Sorry for the poor formatting and I am posting this from my phone but thought I’d do my part to try help someone out. I am not 100% on the crypto sale details but as I find out more I’ll try to get an update. Thanks for your time!
(I am no Tax professional, I do know a bit about taxes but nothing insane, please double check depending on your circumstances and stay posted on the Crypto-Crypto Ruling)
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LTC dude here. I love you guys. Crypto blows my damn mind and I think we're all gonna make it. Chikuns and shibes together.

Hey shibes,
I got a long-winded posting about things I thunk.
I'm an LTC guy myself. You shibes blow my mind though. This is absolutely crazy what you dudes are pulling off.
The following gets a bit off the wall at times. Also very TL;DR.
SUMMARY: Cryptos are straight bonkers and it's like giving birth to gods, also, we're all in it together and we're all gonna make it
Cryptos blow my mind and this is the next step in their evolution, I think. This awesome thing called Dogecoin.
Stepping back for a second and looking at this from a bigger perspective I do think something like this was bound to happen.
We're at a funny point in our history and I believe we're gonna come to big realization about how to operate in financial terms and within life as well.
I started mining LTC after its initial jump to $4 back in April. I heard about bitcoin back in the day from certain tech image-boards, though never actively mined it or researched heavily into it. The threads we're usually neck-deep in naysayers and doubters back in those early days (those , my own doubt and the general makeup of the threads never being enough to really draw me in.
This persisted until the initial 'Big' spike of value in bitcoin last spring. When I saw how much money those earlier investors made and how shocked everyone involved was, it finally drew me in for good. The amount of energy and simple joy from those, now, 'rich SoBs' blew my mind.
Greed drew me in, technically, but the function and potential of this new way of 'interaction' is what is making me stay. But screw what I've done, cause that doesn't matter. Cryptos are way way better than my blog posts.
Honestly, it's still blowing my damn mind.
It's insane. How much wealth has been created out of, what seems to be, thin air? How many people's (honestly, I think it's mostly just younger dudes, averaging in their 20s and early 30s) lives have been improved through this MAGIC (cryptos living and working in the electric signal based technology we've created, absolutely bonkers).
It's touching and improving lives of thousands who've chosen to work with and help in its very creation, both physical creation in the beee-youtiful act of mining (so cool), and the very creation of the COMMUNITIES that work with it (stressed cause I'll be damned shibe {everyone has a GODDAMN AWESOME CODENAME OF FRATERNITY AND BROTHERHOOD} if I don't get absolutely drawn into this suh-weet/funny/mahverymotherisholdingmeasasweetnewbornbabe vibe of community when I'm here).
It's personally, helped me out, potentially, by quite a bit. I'm 21 and this was the first real big investment/experiment/risk/hobby/makingmesmarterinfieldsIdidn'tknowexistedtypeofactivity.
I've made in the region of $10000 worth of LTC since I started back in April.
This is the very first time I've had a windfall of this magnitude. I can build a new rig, pay for school, get a new bed, build my own bed, get hardwood flooring in my room, buy my first car, get a sweet ass aquarium with some angel fish, go to some yuropoor country, get a hotel and finally lose my virginity to multiple high-class escorts (jk already lost it, getrektnerd), create a battle station enshrined with effigies of my waifu while donning an oculus rift to be with her.
The possibilities make me salivate. (I lied, needed more about me in there, ego needs to be stroked, mmmhm yeah feels so good.)
I think many of the Doge naysayers (LTC is mainly guilty of this, being the original scrypt-coin), are just kinda knee-jerk reacting with hostility from fear. Not a direct fear of Dogecoin or shibes taking market share and 'stealing the thunder'. But rather a fear of their coin's own vulnerability.
Bitcoin is the only crypto I think, at this point in time, pending huge events, that's comfortably secure in it's position.
Both in its position as #1, but also its position as a living coin (Cryptos are a strange beast, you can look at mining as the 'heart beat' or 'life energy' of a cryptocurrency. Mining confirms and processes transactions and keeps the blood pumping through creation and movement. A coin with no hashing power behind it means transactions will not move, effectively stopping blood-flow and the coin dies {though it CAN theoretically be 'resurrected' from the dead, which is important}, but damn, look at the history, quite a few dead coins...)
Crypto ain't no stock. This isn't a measured holding of a physical company and is based on tangible physical performance and real world, observable events (but even then psychological and non-physical still holds sway over stocks, to an extent... tulips anyone?).
Crypto is almost all in the head. Crypto is 99% intellectual and conscious rather than physical. That remaining 1% I portioned off for the pixels you see on the screen every time you look at your wallet.
I believe, you believe, we believe that this magic pixel money will do something, and by gosh golly it does, which is what matters. If it didn't would we bother to give it life through mining? Hell no!
We expected it to help us, make our lives better, give back to us when we give it energy.
And it is totally rising to the occasion.
Which is how I think it all works.
The movie, 'They Live!' comes to mind when I think about it.
This moment in particular:
http://nirnadler.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/your-god1.jpg
I'm no physicist, or any type of scientist, or a deeply religious individual. But to say we accurately understand the fundamental function of the universe and reality beyond some immediate preliminary reactions is a tad fool hardy, in my opinion, and I personally don't endorse any of that brashness.
What I do believe, however, is that crypto-currency is a venture into subconscious energy manipulation for the betterment of our lives. It's a conscious tool, a magic ethereal energy (so pretentious, I know), a rudimentary deity or god that we pray (mine) to for assistance.
(I think that whoever Satoshi Nakamoto is {or was, could be a group, who knows, just thanks be to him/hethey/it for this awesome gift [and it totally was a gift, given with complete openness and without underlying motivation for return ]})
I'm just working based off what I see, and what I see is the coins with energy (both hashing and communal) and excitement behind them, succeeding.
Because what's the real difference between various scrypt coins? Nothing really. You get various minute differences in operation, but it primarily functions the exact same way.
The only real thing that currently sets crypto apart is the method of hashing, and the ones that have the investment of hashing are the ones that win. Mo' hashing, Mo' People. Mo' People, Mo' investment.
Bitcoin has the market cornered in SHA256 land with the amount of processing power behind it, it could 'kill' any coin that dares inhabits his realm with the same energy.
It couldn't do that consciously though, of course. Talking about bitcoin (or any cryptocurrency) like it's a single entity is a bit fallacious. It's more like a slumbering, ethereal god at the moment. Wispy dream tendrils absorbing and snuffing out observable coins (ASIC owners being those tendrils).
(I could think of a better analogy but damn this is getting lengthy)
It's a pretty darn beefy Cthulhu (tendrils) as well. I don't see much of anything currently able to disturb its slumber.
Now scrypt coins.... that's a bit different.
Scrypt coins inhabit that very same Pantheon that the Bit-god currently inhabits (they have the same function, same general realm of operation), but they cannot directly attack each other due to difference in energy composition (dimensions or something, this is hard), though they can indirectly influence each others state through potential energy deprivation from their main energy source, us. If one god provides for his followers so completely that all other believers are swayed to conversion, the other god will die. Though this is difficult to achieve because of the potential blow-back from rapid conversion. If one god was in the process of dying the very last devout believers would be branded heretics and excommunicated (left holding the bag and real sad as they are hunted by wolves in the arid steppes).
The scrypt realm differs however, the domination is not so complete, multiple entities exist here. The worshipers of these gods do not have the massive armies (Mining farms), advanced weaponry (ASICS) and empires (Pools) that dictate religion. Belief is more pantheistic in this simple realm, though things are rapidly changing as the peoples evolve. Lines are being drawn and factions formed. A war of cultures and religion looms that could potentially give birth to an empire under one flag.
Or is it?
I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't want anyone to be left in the steppes hunted by wolves for picking the 'wrong' religion. If I lost all my LTC tomorrow I'd be really bummed out. I'm sure anyone that has a holding of any crypto would probably feel the same.
Would feel even worse knowing that most of you guys are probably like me, a younger dude that's probably still in school or figuring out his shit. Sure there's some big whales out there that have massive holdings but the vast majority of us have a small nest egg of crypto that we would absolutely love to see grow. It would help us get a jump-start on life and the things that make us happy.
I don't want any shibes out in the cold. None of this faction war bull some people are pushing out of fear.
I want Dogecoin to become the internet community currency of fraternity and friendship. I want Litecoin to become the definitive silver-coin crypto that it has the potential to be.
I want both to go to the moon together.
Even though they're both based in the same realm. They have their own flock to attend to. With such differing customs, culture, and kingdoms. I don't see either being the only god/civilization in their realm.
I like to think that Bitcoin is the source, the Brahma.
With Litecoin and Dogecoin being two brother deities. Born of the same source but different in nature and purpose. Both inhabiting their moon realm and both gazing to the cosmos and dreaming of reaching new heights.
No shibes left behind.
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I need to compare two rigs for prices and specs for a prebuilt vs a local shop.

Alright everyone, thanks for reading. This is my first build. I have been trying to invest properly and going insane for 2 days proofing my research, gear, prices and worth in the long run. I had aimed to pay about 1500-2000$ CAD and with the current prices, I'm starting to think the long run is not working...unless I buy a prebuilt (which scares me).
Here's what I've come across:
First build is what I built with someone at a local Canadian shop from Montreal. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CYNNGG The price he can make for me is approximately a 1900 with the taxes when I enter it at the shop (not the price that appears on pcpartpicker). He does not have the MSI card in stock so I have to order it from Amazon.ca if I buy with him.
Now, here's what I found on Amazon.ca: https://www.amazon.ca/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Desktop-AM900Z-Intel-i7-7700K/dp/B073RKHY2H/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1
A prebuilt rig with better specs, cheaper, but if it goes badly I'll have to ship it back to the USA. I also know little about IBUYPOWER only that there's good reviews and bad ones like in everything. That itches me because some people are really satisfied (but do they know anything about what they bought) and some are really dissatisfied (but are they being picky).
With bitcoin mining, the Canadian prices are killing me and the IBUYPOWER option is very attractive. I'm also aware that investing it in the local shop makes it safer to some extent. So to anyone who knows this better than I do, is it worth getting the i7 IBUYPOWER rig and what are the pros and cons you'd see as a buyer. Thank you very much for your time. If it was not the bad market, I probably wouldn't even consider a prebuilt.
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Green Crypto Mining Will Define The Industry’s $38bn Future

Energy usage will drop by design thanks to these critical industry developments.

📷By Nick Hall On Aug 10, 2018
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In March this year, the sky officially fell in for Bitcoin miners. With the slump in prices and the extraordinary energy consumption it takes to mine the coins, Fortune revealed that mining a Bitcoin cost as much as buying one. Green crypto mining wasn’t even on the radar for most people until earlier this year.
That was back in March and they were the good times. Morgan Stanley revealed in April that Bitcoin miners would lose money if Bitcoin slipped below $8,600, even with low electricity figures factored in.
A recent study by Coinshare showed that the numbers attributed to the Bitcoin mining industry have been grossly exaggerated and the energy consumption is approximately 50% of the claimed 70TWh. But the numbers are still too high in terms of the financial outlay and the environmental impact of mining cryptocurrency.
Mining doesn’t begin and end with Bitcoin – and although the consensus is (mostly) set in stone, the way we create the energy needed to extract the next part of the puzzle isn’t. Which is why green crypto mining is the ONLY solution to the diminishing returns issue: more cost, for less reward, will eventually lead to an abandonment of the mine, just as it did for gold miners in California in 1848-49.
We’re not looking for one single solution either. We need four separate ones:
  1. A lighter consensus algorithm
  2. Cloud-based cryptocurrency mining.
  3. Renewable, cheaper energy sources to support physical ‘mines’.
  4. Brutal consolidation in the mining industry.

What is cryptocurrency mining?

The Proof-of-Work (PoW) protocol was popularized by shadowy Bitcoin founder Satoshi Nakamoto, building on earlier work by a variety of computer scientists including Hal Finney, and it’s a two-stage process to validate transactions and keep a flow of Bitcoins entering the market. Blocks of data are parsed off and, with Bitcoin, they contain about 1MB. Each block is then locked and coded.
Miners then compete to solve the puzzle and provide the 64-digit hexadecimal key code that it then has to match with a corresponding ‘nonce’, numbers used only once, to claim the reward for unlocking the block and mine Bitcoins. There’s a small fee for validating the transactions, but the Bitcoin miners are really like the old gold miners and they’re after the big paydays.

Why is Bitcoin mining expensive?

In the old days, Bitcoin mining was easy. Back in 2009, a standard desktop computer could mine up to 200 Bitcoin a day. But speed is everything and Bitcoin mining turned into an arms race as Bitcoin soared and the well-funded miners went to war.
Companies like Bitmain, Bitfury and Vogogo spotted a gap in the market and brought professionalism to the Bitcoin mining industry. The Wild West days fell by the wayside and suddenly a standard computer chip would take 98 years to mine one coin, as the super fast rigs of the new breed simply stomped the casual miner into the dust.
The cryptocurrency mining industry even caused the great computer graphics card drought of 2017-2018 as demand for GPUs literally outstripped supply. Used cards were even selling above sticker price and the shelves in-store were stripped bare, but the big guns were already spending tens of millions of dollars to put these home brew operations out of business.
These aren’t computers anymore, they are mission control centers and the power it takes to keep them running is a serious issue for the company’s bottom line and the environmental lobby.
So the industry is looking for a number of different green crypto mining solutions, that will gel together in some haphazard way to form the future of the cryptocurrency market.
The main obstacles are:

1. A greener algorithm

It may be hard to visualize the blockchain itself, but we don’t need to. Technology almost always gets lighter, smaller and slimmer. The same needs to happen to block production.
Blockchain is middleware and it needs to be slimmed down, without sacrificing security or functionality. That’s an ongoing evolutionary process, as it was with smartphones, and the blockchain we’re using in 20 years will likely have little in common with today’s code.
Proof-of-Stake consensus algorithms have been pitched as one way of reducing crypto’s carbon footprint. Instead of competing for block rewards, producers would take turns, weighted by the size of their stake in the network.
Staking is unlikely to catch on in the Bitcoin community, but it has many supporters with Ethereum as well as other cryptocurrencies.. That would make the whole validation process more efficient and cheap.

2. Cloud-based cryptocurrency mining

There are mining firms that are still investing millions of dollars in physical equipment and taking on all the sunk costs, when the Cloud is simply taking over the world of advanced computing.
Cloud-based cryptocurrency mining companies are already selling packages to the general public and the Cloud offers increased security, speed and essentially a small slice of the world’s computing power, rather than the machines you buy, install and power up. It also potentially offers AI integration that could leave the traditional cryptocurrency miners hopelessly panning for gold in a dead river.
The Cloud has made self-driving cars and robots a reality. It can certainly ramp up the speed of calculations and leave even a multi-million dollar mining rig trailing in its wake.
The switch to Cloud-based mining is good news for the environment, too, as the power demands would move to localities with the cheapest energy. Without these wild spikes in energy consumption and without these concentrated mines, the main complaints about the industry will simply cease to be an issue.

3. Renewable, cheap energy for grand-scale mines

Cloud-based cryptocurrency mining looks like the obvious solution, but it’s the final cost that determines the methodology when it comes to crypto mining and there is more than one way to do this.
Technically, the likes of Elon Musk could turn the arid sub-Saharan scrubland into the biggest and most prosperous cryptocurrency mine in the world with a vast array of solar panels and Tesla PowerPack batteries to keep it running through the night.
Cheap land and free energy means that hardware would be the only major cost to consider in this instance. Alternatively, a State-sponsored mining firm in a smaller nation could easily co-opt hydroelectric or solar providers to work with them to reduce energy costs. Even the ones that use grid power can select the world’s cheapest nations and bulk buy energy in blocks.
Potentially, then, we could still have the grand-scale mines that bring economy of scale and environmentally-friendly energy production to the world of cryptocurrency mining.

4. Brutal consolidation

It does not matter how the industry develops, or if Cloud computing or giant mines are the future, the days of the home cryptocurrency miner are numbered.
Just like the mom and pop mines of the goldrush days gave way to corporate giants with drilling and excavation machinery that made the old pick and shovel look slightly ridiculous, the same will happen in cryptocurrency mining.
Competition will continue to grow, the margins will likely drop even further and the flagrant energy use of today’s cryptocurrency miners simply won’t be an option. Miners that don’t streamline their operations and adopt some form of green crypto mining process will simply run at a loss until they go out of business.
Bil Tai is the Chairman of Hul 8, the North American arm of Bitfury Group and one of the biggest suppliers of cryptocurrency mining equipment of the world. Even he expects just 5-10 giant mining companies to survive the impending cull.
“It’s totally different this year,” he told Bloomberg. “The bitcoin mining industry was this mysterious, dark, cottage industry. It’s about to grow up and scale institutionally.”
There’s a dark side to these tech giants emerging, as they will technically have the power to exert an influence on a coin’s value, not just its creation. That is a problem the industry will have to examine at some point. This simple danger, though, is not enough to turn back the tide of progress.
So, we can expect to see a handful of mining companies dominate the industry as they make the best use of the available technology.

Conclusion: Green Crypto Mining Isn’t An Option: It’s The Only Option

One way or another, the environmental issues that dog the cryptocurrency mining industry are set to disappear.
It will be the free market that drives down that energy usage, rather than regulations and sanctions. The days of the home crypto miner are simply coming to an end, though, as the industry matures and large companies descend and fight for dominance in what could become a $38 billion a year industry by 2025.
That comes with its own set of tradeoffs, especially for philosophical hardliners. Like it or not, a leaner, greener cryptocurrency mining process is just around the corner, and big business is going to create it.
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[uncensored-r/Bitcoin] A High End Video Editing Rig that also plays games on 4K Max, and works for Crypto mining...?

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Hey guys, kind of a weird question here.
Considering building my first rig. I want to play games in 4K on max settings. I also really want it to be a solid 4K video editing machine. (Actually, being able to edit 8K Footage, while really unnecessary for me at the minute, would be epic.
But I also have a 3rd possible use for this machine. Mining Cryptocurrency (which I know 0.1% about, but I am intrigued).
I stumbled across 2 articles that I am reading over:
http://www.techradar.com/news/best-mining-gpu http://www.techradar.com/news/best-mining-motherboards
I'm sure I'll research further, but...
  1. Would a rig built with Mining as the PRIMARY goal service my other 2 needs? (Gaming and video editing).
  2. The graphics card of choice above (Value for money) seems to be the GTX 1070. But a GTX 1080TI (at 2x the price) is better overall for gaming. So… Would running 2x 1070’s give me better gaming/editing performance than a single 1080TI? (Because it seems it would mine better).
  3. Moving on to motherboards for a second, “The best mining motherboard” is the “B250 Mining Expert” from Asus. It supports up to 19 GPU’s. Is there any reason this motherboard won’t do well in a gaming/editing situation? 4., A couple of the motherboards (Such as the Asus ROG Strix z270E) listed have comments like “Can also be used for gaming”. So what, the others can’t?
  4. Back to gaming/editing, would running 3-19 GPU's even work? I mean, that’s a shit tone of GPU’s. Would I be able to run everything at simply insane levels? Would 8K video work be a breeze?
  5. Where the fuck do you get a case to put 19 GPU’s? Or even 4.
  6. Is building the rest of the rig the same?
  7. Finally, anyone here with mining experience? What’s your setup? How many GPU’s do you run?
  8. Bonus points if any of these rigs can be used as a Hackintosh.
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[Table] IamA: Hey Reddit! Shooter Jennings here, Get to know me AMA!

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Who are some artists you draw inspiration from? I am always inspired by other artists. I wouldn't have a sound if it weren't for all the other artists I had learned from. Whether it be George Jones or Giorgio Moroder (my two tribute EP's I've been working on), or new bands like the ones i mentioned: Scott H Biram, Hellbound Glory, Black Mountain, Sturgill Simpson, Jack White even to black metal bands like Darkthrone, Mayhem and Burzum. Then there's my whole life in country, my dad, my mom, Cash, Keith Whitely, Vern Gosden, Jamey Johnson, Willie Nelson, Kristofferson... Billy Don Burns. I'm always being inspired.
You mentioned you play video games, which ones are you into currently? As for video games: I love them! I play tons of old ones. I have a few arcade machines I've collected over the years. Street Fighter II, a Nintendo Red Tent, Time Traveler Laserdisc Game. I love old games. I even collect old PC's. I just bought an old 486 with DOS so i could play the old PC games like King's Quest, and Space Quest on them again.
Space quest 4 FTW! :) I HAVE THE SQ4 SOUNDTRACK ON MY ITUNES.
Do u have a ftp server? I'd love to grab that, memories. I don't but i can pass it to you. Send me an email at [email protected] - i also have SQ1, LSL1, Codename: Iceman (one of my favorites) and a few others i can hightail to you.
I've recently become a huge fan of your music. Especially Hierophant. How is it possible that such a great record didn't get more attention? Do you attribute that to the music industry being lame, or is doing loads and loads of press just not your thing? Because that record is great. Thank you very much! 'Black Ribbons' will always be a crowning achievement for me. And I hope to really finish a project I've been working on for a long time that will be along those same lines. As far as the industry... at the time, they really weren't that interested in the album. When I finished it, I sent it to all the same kind of press outlets I used for my previous records for television and paper, and most of them felt it wasn't good to get behind. We had several television programs tell us it was "not tv-friendly" and we also had the BIGGEST of publications tell us they didn't want to get behind it. Also country radio protested advertising shows in any areas I had been in because I made a "anti-american" album. So i'm not too worried about it all... The lesson I learned is, once you put it out there, it has a life of it's own. I may not have made a lot of money off that album, but I've gotten the biggest opportunities of my life from people who were fans of that album. And I've gained the most loyal fan base I could ever ask for of Black Ribbons fans.
Do you feel you would be as successful as you are today if your dad had not had the success he has had? That's a hard question to answer. Considering, it's impossible to gauge this kind of thing... but I will say that my dad being who he is has certainly gotten me in some doors, but it has also created a lot of walls that a new artist with no family history doesn't have to scale. For instance, a lot of people have a pre-formed impression of me to begin with, so i have to work against that until they finally open up to try and figure out what I am about without him in the picture. another example is going out there under my name for the first, it''s very hard to delineate from the beginning who is there because they don't know anything but your music and like your music and that is is... some people come just because they like my dad, which I am grateful for, but they usually aren't very open to the risks that I take musically. So that can kind of work against me and frustrate me at times. But ultimately, i am very grateful for the life i have and for the father and mother i have...
Can you talk about your personal opinions on the Illuminati and NWO conspiracy? I've noticed you have been using alot more symbolism in your videos... Are you with their ideology or against it? Thanks a lot for the kind words. The Colonel rules for sure...
Also, You and Jon Hensley are two of the nicest dudes in the business... Please stay cool and humble as F**K! lol. I am not FOR the Illuminati and the NWO, that would be silly haha! I don't necessarily believe there is like 6 hooded dudes pulling all the strings, but I believe heavily that the media, and culture are controlled very strategically by groups of people tied to banks, congress, etc. Bilderberg is real, and there are a lot of shapes and forms of Bilderberg-type organizations in film, music, pretty much any profession. My opinion is do the RIGHT thing, do the RIGHT thing for your family first, your heart and your passion, and your friends. Cultivate that stuff, attempt to build your LOCAL community as much as you can, and ultimately, if someone is trying to force you to do something you don't want to do, especially if it goes against your personal beliefs, then you have ALL the right to speak loud in defiance. I read about all this stuff, and i try to tie other deeper messages into my music and artwork, so thank you for being someone that looked beyond the surface!
How do you feel about the smaller cryptocoin markets, in particular dodgecoin? I think that bitcoin is always going to be the important currency, and I wonder how the side-chain developing technology will affect the alt coin market, but i've spent my time on cryptsy and I have about 60k dogecoin sitting around. I built a script mining rig, kind of for fun, and mined for a while will it. But now the Scrypt ASICs are flooding the market and I've stuck with my bitcoin. But ultimately I feel like the community built behind dogecoin and litecoin as well as a few other stand-out altcoins is far much stronger and more real than say something like Etherium and Darkcoin. I just can't currently get behind these other currencies when obviously BTC and the block-chain are the backbone of this stuff, and Proof Of Work is still the only purely decentralized system of transaction confirmation.
Hey shooter. Just wanted to say I'm a big fan of your music. I recently lost my dad and "it ain't easy" helped me get through some really tough times. Thanks for that song man. Can you please talk about what that song means to you? Thank you so much for saying that. "It Ain't Easy" was an emotional moment for me. We had had some great traction with the first record and my song "4th of July". When we had finished "Electric Rodeo", the cover of Hank Jr's "The Living Proof" was the last song on the record. We threw out our first single to radio and they threw it right back and told us they wouldn't play it. It just got me down, because I was hoping to really use our moment in the sun to influence the sound of country in a more open direction for all these other artists I'd become fans of... But they didn't, and it hurt in a way. Rejection or whatever... And in that moment I really wished my dad was around to talk to, so this was my way of talking to him. It means a lot to me when people say that song means something to them. It makes me feel like I got an answer back, you know what I mean?
Do you believe in God or practice any kind of religion? Your dad was always a very spiritual person from what I've heard... but not necessarily a big fan of organized religion. Was that the case? I'm pretty much the same way. I was raised in a Christian household because of my mom, but my dad never really participated in church or anything, and honestly i was just running away from it the minute i went. I hate dressing up and having to go act proper in a place. So that always makes me feel like i'm being held captive. but I do believe in a higher power, and I do believe, no matter what happens or what is out there, the moral decisions you make in your life affect the outcome of your children and the future of the world. I am also very deep into science, so i have a very rational mind when it comes to stuff in the bible etc, but i am infatuated by religion and i believe that we are all in good hands...
Shooter, loved you on the Joe Rogan experience and love your music. You talked about you and your dad watching horror movies so I want to know what are some of your favorite scary movies? Some of my favorites are The Shining, Beyond the Black Rainbow, The Objective... There's a lot but I can't think of them all! I rarely find one that scares me. The Innkeepers was great... Of course the classics like Poltergeist and the original slasher movies. I used to watch late night USA network when I was a kid and get a great bunch of B-Rate glory.
There's one that my dad woke me up late night to see one night. I never have found it. It was one of those "a bunch of people in a house during an insane rain storm and they keep getting killed one by one". All i remember is a scene with an old man who was missing and they found him in a closet covered in Bees or some kind of bug. Wish I could find this!
Growing up and currently did you have any contact with the highwaymen? I was 5 when the first Highwaymen tour happened and I had the good fortune of traveling with them, and again when I was around 10. Those families were very close to my heart, and us children all stay in touch. I will see Willie and Kris both from time to time, and they are so kind and supportive. I'm very proud of our friendships and to be part of that inner sanctum. Let me tell you this, that was about the most real group of people to put together on stage that ever existed. It's breathtaking to even look back on it. Of course, as a kid, i could have cared less, I wanted to find the closest arcade. So did the other kids, so ha!
*Loved the Southern Independent Vols 1-3!! * I still include many of the songs in my playlists. What would you say the impact of that project was and will you do it again? I really felt good about that and the XXX stuff we were doing. Even though opposition from camps of people who were more interested in protecting their value in the scene vs. helping the artists they "care so much fore" really drove it away, I got to know a lot of great artists that way and I've worked with a few of them in the studio. I think the best thing it did for me is make me aware of these bands and be able to not only be inspired by them, but help any way i can (whether it be playing them on the radio or just spreading the word among friends). Those collections are available as part of the BCR BAZAAR for free. If you want access to it, just email us at [email protected].
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How to build a Bitcoin mining rig

In this tutorial, I will show you how to build a mining rig step by step. ... Bitcoin Explained Simply for Dummies - Duration: 12:49. 99Bitcoins 974,475 views. 12:49. How to build an 8 GPU Mining Rig. Specifications of the rig I build in this video: Motherboard: Asus Z270-P CPU: G3900 Skylake Celeron Ram: 4GB DDR4 Mircon GPU: 8X RX580 8G Powercolor Red Devil ... This rig will cost you about ~$5,000 USD. Given current payout will make about $8,000/year after power cost. I will be active in the comments if you have questions or advice. Thanks for watching ... building mining rig best cheapest way set up on workbench to test. Skip navigation ... BITCOIN MINING RIG step by step how to build on the workbench most inexpensive way!!! Ironbar 2 Tech. Noob Tries to build a Bitcoin Mining Rig - £2200 down the pan?? ... rig,gtx 1070,mining pool,mining rig build,mining rig 2017,asrock h110 pro btc,asrock h110 pro btc setup,bitcoin mining 2017,is ...

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